state-of-mayflower-v-voync

Mayflower District Court

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clerkFlow Bot2025-05-01 08:29 p.m.

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State of Mayflower v. voync

Case Type

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Case Number

CR-104-25

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Brenda 2025-05-02 02:23 a.m.

Reassigned to @ryan

Brenda 2025-05-02 05:14 p.m.

ive reassigned it on the website as well @ryan

ryan used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-05-02 07:19 p.m.

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@ryan

has added @Funpark22 to the case channel.

ryan 2025-05-02 07:20 p.m.

You are to have a charging document and AoPC within 16 hours

ryan 2025-05-02 07:20 p.m.

should you fail, this will be dismissed for failure to prosecute

Funpark22 2025-05-03 12:50 a.m.

Courtesy copy

Funpark22 2025-05-03 12:51 a.m.

Correction, a typorgraphical error was made on count three, where the count isn't listed as a misdeanor or a felony. @ryan Would you allow me to quickly refile to fix the issue?

Funpark22 2025-05-03 12:51 a.m.

misdemeanor*

ryan 2025-05-03 01:14 a.m.

idrc

Funpark22

Courtesy copy

ryan 2025-05-03 01:15 a.m.

It isn't a courtesy copy, when you are on my docket

ryan 2025-05-03 01:16 a.m.

It is required

ryan

It isn't a courtesy copy, when you are on my docket

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:16 a.m.

It's just because I file it on the website

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:16 a.m.

It's nice of me to post it here as well

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Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:16 a.m.

and I see your 3rd rule

ryan 2025-05-03 01:16 a.m.

It is equired actually

ryan 2025-05-03 01:16 a.m.

required

ryan 2025-05-03 01:16 a.m.

yes thank you

ryan

idrc

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:17 a.m.

Specifying misdemeanor vs felony is I believe required by criminal rules.

ryan 2025-05-03 01:17 a.m.

Yes and i idrc if u refile

ryan 2025-05-03 01:17 a.m.

You could do 100000000000 filings and id be okay

ryan 2025-05-03 01:17 a.m.

js make sure you comply w local rules king

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:17 a.m.

Alright

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:18 a.m.

I just don't feel like being swarmed with MTDs about a failure to follow local criminal rules.

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:18 a.m.

Lol

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:18 a.m.

Let me fix that

ryan 2025-05-03 01:18 a.m.

well

ryan 2025-05-03 01:18 a.m.

you see

ryan 2025-05-03 01:19 a.m.

you've already specified

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:19 a.m.

For 1 and 2

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:19 a.m.

But not 3

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:19 a.m.

I failed to specfiy that unlicensed possession of a firearm is in fact a felony.

ryan 2025-05-03 01:19 a.m.

also PC established

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:19 a.m.

wunderbar!

ryan 2025-05-03 01:19 a.m.

Theres a THIRD ?!

ryan 2025-05-03 01:19 a.m.

oh my GOD

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:20 a.m.

scroll

ryan 2025-05-03 01:20 a.m.

this is CRAZY

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:20 a.m.

Normal day

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:21 a.m.

Dated and added the classification for count 3

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:22 a.m.

and filed

Funpark22 2025-05-03 01:22 a.m.

CC: @ryan

ryan 2025-05-03 01:22 a.m.

ryan 2025-05-03 03:00 a.m.

@Funpark22

ryan 2025-05-03 03:07 a.m.

Minute Order Regarding Sua Sponte Dismissal

The State's Information filed this 3rd of May, 2025, is dismissed sua sponte for failure to follow local rules. Namely, the State failed to adhere to Mayfl. LR 4 (4)(3) by filing a complaint that is antagonistic to formal court standards in form and substance. Specifically, the State's information contained wanton grammatical errors that detract from the aesthetic nature of the document. These errors are offensive to the Court, the State, and the people the State serves through criminal prosecution. To this extent, the Court is left no choice but to strike the document. Mayfl. LR 4 (4)(3); State v. B_lindedd, CR-0079-25 (Mayfl. D. Ct. 2025); __State v. Chetahracer2000, CR-0091-25 (Mayfl D. Ct. 2025).

ryan 2025-05-03 07:56 p.m.

Well ig struck is the right word

ryan

Minute Order Regarding Sua Sponte Dismissal The State's Information filed this 3rd of May, 2025, is dismissed sua sponte for failure to follow local rules. Namely, the State...

ryan 2025-05-03 07:56 p.m.

Amend to say *struck please

ryan 2025-05-03 08:00 p.m.

You may refile within 36 hours @Funpark22

ryan

Minute Order Regarding Sua Sponte Dismissal The State's Information filed this 3rd of May, 2025, is dismissed sua sponte for failure to follow local rules. Namely, the State...

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:40 a.m.

Did you not just find PC?

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:40 a.m.

And also please can you specify the "wanton grammatical errors?"

ryan 2025-05-04 01:40 a.m.

I find PC but your submission violates the local rules hun

ryan 2025-05-04 01:41 a.m.

No oxford comma to start

ryan 2025-05-04 01:41 a.m.

Plus, your CI contains surplusage so it'll be struck anyway

ryan

No oxford comma to start

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:42 a.m.

Where do you think that comma should go?

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:42 a.m.

My AAG even approved this

ryan 2025-05-04 01:42 a.m.

Who's your AAG

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:42 a.m.

Adam

ryan 2025-05-04 01:43 a.m.

Checks

ryan 2025-05-04 01:43 a.m.

Everything in yellow is surplus

ryan

Checks

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:44 a.m.

"who is not authorized to possess it" follows statutory language

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:44 a.m.

The statute declares peace officers and nat guard

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:44 a.m.

Not illegal firearms strictly

ryan

No oxford comma to start

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:44 a.m.

Again, what comma in that series did I miss?

ryan 2025-05-04 01:45 a.m.

Funpark22

Again, what comma in that series did I miss?

ryan 2025-05-04 01:45 a.m.

We'll get there

Funpark22

"who is not authorized to possess it" follows statutory language

ryan 2025-05-04 01:45 a.m.

And yet it is unnecessary?

ryan 2025-05-04 01:45 a.m.

it is surplus

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:45 a.m.

If remove the "surplus" and I get a MTD for failure to follow statutory langauge

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:45 a.m.

language

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:45 a.m.

For that case

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:46 a.m.

For the absense of the "surplus"

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:46 a.m.

What happens.

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:48 a.m.

Your honor, I can start spitting out case law about background on cases not being surplus

For example,

“As long as the statutory scheme is coherent and consistent, there generally is no need for a court to inquire beyond the plain language of the statute” United States v. Ron Pair Enterprises, 489 U.S. 235 (1989)

"Moreover, the [Second Circuit] has affirmed that background paragraphs need not be stricken from an indictment where they are relevant to the crimes charged” United States v. Colon-Ledee, 785 F. Supp. 2d 1 (D.P.R.2010).

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:48 a.m.

ignore that first case law

ryan 2025-05-04 01:48 a.m.

Bottom line

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:49 a.m.

I'm simply confused, your honor.

ryan 2025-05-04 01:49 a.m.

Your complaint is deficient

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:49 a.m.

you first grant PC

Funpark22

I'm simply confused, your honor.

ryan 2025-05-04 01:49 a.m.

And you're not helping me explain it to you

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:49 a.m.

Then immediately turn around and say NOPE

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:49 a.m.

My apologies, your honor.

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:49 a.m.

I've had a long day

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:49 a.m.

and it's 12:50 AM for me

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:50 a.m.

1. You note a missing comma in a series of words
2. "who is not authorized to possess it" and "a gun the Defendant Brandished and discharged" is surplus.
3. "the defendant turned a firearm on" and "a recognized firearm within the state" is surplus

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:50 a.m.

I'll get these fixed within those 36 hours from your order.

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:51 a.m.

Again apologies for my outlandish refute. It's late.

Kezzera 2025-05-04 01:52 a.m.

(can anyone from this case confirm what filings are accepted/denied - the websitehas a bunch of them backed up for this case)

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:53 a.m.

You've also stated you'd get there in terms of telling me the location of the comma. That comma being the primary reason you dismissed the case. That absence of a comma exhibiting "wanton grammatical errors that detract from the aesthetic nature of the document. These errors are offensive to the Court, the State, and the people the State serves through criminal prosecution. To this extent, the Court is left no choice but to strike the document."

Kezzera

(can anyone from this case confirm what filings are accepted/denied - the websitehas a bunch of them backed up for this case)

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:54 a.m.

Well no filings have shown up on the website

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:54 a.m.

I'm sure your honor can give an answer.

Kezzera 2025-05-04 01:55 a.m.

@Underprothonotary

ryan 2025-05-04 01:56 a.m.

Okay I am back

Funpark22

Then immediately turn around and say NOPE

ryan 2025-05-04 01:57 a.m.

Please stop trying to say that my finding of PC is not to say that your complaint is perfect

ryan 2025-05-04 01:57 a.m.

It's not, that is foolish

Kezzera

(can anyone from this case confirm what filings are accepted/denied - the websitehas a bunch of them backed up for this case)

ryan 2025-05-04 01:57 a.m.

Amended info is struck

ryan 2025-05-04 01:58 a.m.

The issue comes that, you double allege things.

ryan

Amended info is struck

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:58 a.m.

The amended info has a date and a classification of a chrge

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:58 a.m.

If you strike the amended, you might as well strike the original

ryan

Click to see attachment.

ryan 2025-05-04 01:58 a.m.

Here for example, "the defendant turned a firearm on..." then you state "Defendant...drew a weapon."

Funpark22 2025-05-04 01:59 a.m.

I'll let you finish, apologies.

ryan

Amended info is struck

Kezzera 2025-05-04 01:59 a.m.

ok, original and aopc was filed in your case - strike these off if necessary

Kezzera 2025-05-04 01:59 a.m.

@Underprothonotary

from here

Kezzera 2025-05-04 01:59 a.m.

doing cleanups of filings

Funpark22

I'll let you finish, apologies.

ryan 2025-05-04 01:59 a.m.

I find trouble thinking that these two allegations are ANY different from each other?

ryan 2025-05-04 02:00 a.m.

If he turned a firearm upon, surely he drew a firearm too

ryan 2025-05-04 02:02 a.m.

First, it's lazy and shows your AAG didn't do his job. Second, you do not need to include the exact statutory language to be fine, you just need to, in a vacuum, establish that the words of the count constitute a violation under the statute in question. Third, if you cite a case, the factual pattern should be similar. If you want to stand by Colon-Ledeeyou better hope that the factual pattern is similar or it'll be your ass

ryan 2025-05-04 02:02 a.m.

The issue I have is everything I've highlighted is LITERALLY unnecessary to establish a violation and is, thus, surplusage

Funpark22

Where do you think that comma should go?

ryan 2025-05-04 02:02 a.m.

between Gun and "and"

Funpark22

If you strike the amended, you might as well strike the original

ryan 2025-05-04 02:03 a.m.

The amended was nullified the moment you filed the amended

ryan 2025-05-04 02:04 a.m.

Also in the discharging count you state "a recognized firearm within the State," how does that add to your complaint when you use the word firearm before?

ryan

between Gun and "and"

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:05 a.m.

I see

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:05 a.m.

@ryan

your honor, all of these surplusages and lack of a comma concluded break the rule of "all filings should maintain a clean, professional appearance, consistent with formal court standards." LR4(4)(3)

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

I just want to clarify that I don't break this rule again.

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

And that I have everything you'r targetting.

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

you're*

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

break of the rule*

ryan 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

Surplus also violates Crim rules btw

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

breaking*

ryan 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

You're fine counselor

ryan 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

Yes, i have an issue with anything highlighted

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

Can I ask a question

ryan 2025-05-04 02:06 a.m.

The grammar issue is ignorable in the face of surplus

ryan 2025-05-04 02:07 a.m.

Absolutely, i always encourage it

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:07 a.m.

I first alleged this, but I didn't ask the question in regard to thus:

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:07 a.m.

You find probable cause following my sending of the amended CI. You then later decide to dismiss it. My question is why didn't you dismiss it before finding PC?

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:08 a.m.

Because typically upon finding probable cause, a summons and a deputy are ready to go.

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:08 a.m.

This is off the top of my head at 1:09 am

Funpark22

This is off the top of my head at 1:09 am

ryan 2025-05-04 02:08 a.m.

Same bro

ryan 2025-05-04 02:09 a.m.

I got aork at 10

ryan 2025-05-04 02:09 a.m.

But PC ≠ your complaint being fine

ryan 2025-05-04 02:09 a.m.

I said this earlier, but i looked at your complaint in a vacuum without any regard for the formatting or surplus

ryan 2025-05-04 02:10 a.m.

Your complaint in a vacuum does meet PC, but it doesn't change the fact that it violates rules of procedures

ryan 2025-05-04 02:10 a.m.

To me, those are separate issues

ryan 2025-05-04 02:11 a.m.

And the fact that the complaint is struck does not absolve the Defendant of the case

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:15 a.m.

Ok, I'll add the comma and remove the surplusage.

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:15 a.m.

I appreicate you finding my errors now, so in the future they don't have to reoccur in possibly a more prestigious case.

ryan 2025-05-04 02:17 a.m.

Yea ofc

ryan

Yea ofc

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:18 a.m.

Would you like me refile the case entirely due to this being "dismissed" or do you just want me to file a new ci

Funpark22 2025-05-04 02:18 a.m.

superceding ci

ryan 2025-05-04 02:21 a.m.

New ci

ryan 2025-05-04 02:21 a.m.

Pls

Funpark22

1. You note a missing comma in a series of words 2. "who is not authorized to possess it" and "a gun the Defendant Brandished and discharged" is surplus. 3. "the defendant turned a...

Funpark22 2025-05-04 03:05 a.m.

@ryan

Is this correct?

ryan 2025-05-04 11:56 p.m.

Correct

ryan 2025-05-04 11:56 p.m.

Yes

Funpark22 2025-05-05 01:54 a.m.

@ryan

crossing my fingers this time

ryan 2025-05-05 02:08 a.m.

"intentionally killed kemchimi with intent to kill..."

ryan 2025-05-05 02:08 a.m.

"the Defendant showed up behind the
defendant, brandished a Protec DC9 Submachine Gun, and randomly began to fire upon
kemchimi, killing kemchimi."

ryan 2025-05-05 02:08 a.m.

You've double alleged intent AND the killing

ryan 2025-05-05 02:08 a.m.

Surplusage, struck

ryan 2025-05-05 02:08 a.m.

^^ count 1

ryan 2025-05-05 02:09 a.m.

"discharged a firearm within the City of Mersea, to wit, the Defendant went behind kemchimi,
drew a weapon, and then began to discharge a Protec DC9 Submachine Gun.

ryan 2025-05-05 02:09 a.m.

^^ Count 2 struck

ryan 2025-05-05 02:09 a.m.

Count 3 is probably fine

ryan 2025-05-05 02:09 a.m.

Did your AAG review this @Funpark22

ryan used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-05-05 02:10 a.m.

Case Modified

@ryan

has added @AdamC_2001 to the case channel.

ryan 2025-05-05 02:10 a.m.

Hi Adam

ryan 2025-05-05 02:11 a.m.

I'm adding you here too because you're his boss, you're supposed to review his work and you've done a piss poor job

ryan 2025-05-05 02:11 a.m.

At this point, it's on you, and i want you to be aware of what's happened here

ryan

Did your AAG review this @Funpark22

ryan 2025-05-05 02:14 a.m.

We're going to have a quick teaching moment.
"On or about the 15th of April, 2025, within Clark County, Mayflower, the defendant
intentionally killed kemchimi with intent to kill, to wit, the Defendant showed up behind the
defendant, brandished a Protec DC9 Submachine Gun, and randomly began to fire upon
kemchimi, killing kemchimi."
If you'd revise it to say:
"On or about the 15th of April, 2025, the Defendant, to wit, within Clark County, Mayflower, did intentionally and knowingly fire upon the victim, kemchimi, utilizing a Protec DC9 submachine gun, resulting in and causing their death."

ryan 2025-05-05 02:16 a.m.

Count two reads:
"On or about the 15th of April, 2025, within Clark County, Mayflower, the Defendant
discharged a firearm within the City of Mersea, to wit, the Defendant went behind kemchimi,
drew a weapon, and then began to discharge a Protec DC9 Submachine Gun."
If you'd revise it to say:
"On or about the 15th of April, 2025, the Defendant did, to wit, knowingly and intentionally discharge a firearm, specifically a Protect DC9, within the city limits of Mersa, Mayflower."

ryan 2025-05-05 02:16 a.m.

Do you see the difference

Funpark22 2025-05-05 08:49 a.m.

@ryan

I’ve been taught to write cis by statutory language then “to wit” then descending into particulars

Funpark22 2025-05-05 08:49 a.m.

I’ve had cis approved with this structure every other case I have been in

Funpark22 2025-05-05 08:50 a.m.

Some of the stuff you point out wasn’t even changed from the first

ryan

You've double alleged intent AND the killing

Funpark22 2025-05-05 08:51 a.m.

That’s the literal statutory language

Funpark22

@ryan I’ve been taught to write cis by statutory language then “to wit” then descending into particulars

Funpark22 2025-05-05 08:52 a.m.

This format has also been in cis Adam has approved

Funpark22 2025-05-05 08:53 a.m.

Adam hasn’t revised this version because:

1. He approved the OG. These are simple changes to it

2. I had 36 hours
A. He was at a concert
B. I was waiting for your confirmation to my question

Funpark22 2025-05-05 08:54 a.m.

So I simply find it odd that in one courtroom a specific ci is wanted yet in another you want this

ryan 2025-05-05 10:56 a.m.

You find it odd?

ryan 2025-05-05 10:56 a.m.

I find it odd that the DoJ is failing to train its prosecutors effectively

ryan 2025-05-05 10:57 a.m.

When I said can the surplusage, I meant stop doubling alleging stuff

ryan 2025-05-05 10:57 a.m.

"Whoever intentionally kills another with intent to kill or commit great bodily harm shall be guilty of a felony."

ryan 2025-05-05 10:57 a.m.

You DONT need to exactly mirror the statutory language

ryan 2025-05-05 10:58 a.m.

If you say someone intended to kill another then that's it!

ryan 2025-05-05 10:58 a.m.

Defendant did intentionally kill victim.

ryan 2025-05-05 10:58 a.m.

That would be sufficient under the statute

Funpark22

So I simply find it odd that in one courtroom a specific ci is wanted yet in another you want this

ryan 2025-05-05 10:59 a.m.

I want you to stop putting surplus in your CI

Funpark22

This format has also been in cis Adam has approved

ryan 2025-05-05 10:59 a.m.

I do not care if Adam has approved them. Adam approving something is NOT evidence that it is okay in all court rooms

Funpark22

@ryan I’ve been taught to write cis by statutory language then “to wit” then descending into particulars

ryan 2025-05-05 11:00 a.m.

That is bad practice when it leads to surplusage

ryan 2025-05-05 11:00 a.m.

Because you end up double-alleging stuff and that's surplusage, whoever taught you that should be sacked lowkey

ryan 2025-05-05 11:01 a.m.

I've given you the key on how to fix your issue in this chat

Funpark22 2025-05-05 04:53 p.m.

I’ll file superseding today

ryan

I find it odd that the DoJ is failing to train its prosecutors effectively

Funpark22 2025-05-05 04:57 p.m.

This is my first ci that I actually have an issue with it out of the many I have authored

ryan

When I said can the surplusage, I meant stop doubling alleging stuff

Funpark22 2025-05-05 04:57 p.m.

Apologies for not seeing that earlier

Funpark22

Apologies for not seeing that earlier

ryan 2025-05-05 05:22 p.m.

You're fine

Funpark22

This is my first ci that I actually have an issue with it out of the many I have authored

ryan 2025-05-05 05:22 p.m.

Most don't care to do it

ryan 2025-05-05 05:22 p.m.

I have been doing this perhaps too long so I apologize if I've come across rude

ryan 2025-05-05 05:23 p.m.

But times like these can be very good teaching moments

ryan

You DONT need to exactly mirror the statutory language

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:00 a.m.

"Rather, as long as the statutory scheme is coherent and consistent, there generally is no need for a court to inquire beyond the plain language of the statute." See United States v. Ron Pair Enterprises, Inc. 489 U.S. 235,240-241

ryan 2025-05-06 12:02 a.m.

Come back here when you can cite and italicize your cases properly lil bro

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:02 a.m.

ryan 2025-05-06 12:02 a.m.

I will keep you here

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:02 a.m.

What's the proper way to get the page numbers....

ryan 2025-05-06 12:02 a.m.

until you fix your mistakes

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:02 a.m.

Case number is 489 U.S. 235

Funpark22

What's the proper way to get the page numbers....

ryan 2025-05-06 12:02 a.m.

You forgot a year, your thing is spaced incorrectly

ryan 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

AND worse of all

ryan 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

the worst of all

ryan 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

you italicized EVERYTHING

ryan 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

Rookie mistake

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

489 U.S. 235, 109 S. Ct. 1026, 103 L. Ed. 2d 290, 57 U.S.L.W. 4256, 20 Collier Bankr. Cas. 2d 267, 63 A.F.T.R.2d (RIA) 652, 18 Bankr. Ct. Dec. (CRR) 1150, 1989 U.S. LEXIS 1041

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

Is that any better?

ryan 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

Very much so.

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

Page numbers follow the 235, correct?

ryan 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

Correct but you didn't put a year

ryan 2025-05-06 12:03 a.m.

so you didnt follow bluebook

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:04 a.m.

" 20 Collier Bankr. Cas. 2d 267, 63 A.F.T.R.2d (RIA) 652, 18 Bankr. Ct. Dec. (CRR) 1150"

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:04 a.m.

I can take that part out^^^

ryan 2025-05-06 12:04 a.m.

This word be correct

ryan 2025-05-06 12:04 a.m.

I've told you the issue was the year

ryan 2025-05-06 12:05 a.m.

ALSO just because your complaint can contain the statutory language and be fine, that doesn't disprove my point

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:05 a.m.

United States v. Ron Pair Enterprises

489 U.S. 235,240-241 (1989)

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:06 a.m.

@ryan

Would you prefer I simply put the text of the counts in here first, so I don't keep clogging up the site.

ryan 2025-05-06 12:06 a.m.

Absolutely!

ryan 2025-05-06 12:07 a.m.

Also

ryan 2025-05-06 12:07 a.m.

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:07 a.m.

You approved count 3

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:07 a.m.

fired*

ryan 2025-05-06 12:08 a.m.

Correct

ryan 2025-05-06 12:08 a.m.

Count 3 is awesome

ryan 2025-05-06 12:08 a.m.

Very good actually

ryan 2025-05-06 12:08 a.m.

You should be happy

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:08 a.m.

I'll only be happy until I get this right the first time.

ryan

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Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:09 a.m.

a comma is correct.

ryan 2025-05-06 12:10 a.m.

Funpark22

a comma is correct.

ryan 2025-05-06 12:10 a.m.

I didn't say a comma wasn't

ryan 2025-05-06 12:11 a.m.

I said you didnt put a space after the comma which is NOT

ryan

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Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:11 a.m.

What are you annotating?

ryan

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Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:11 a.m.

oh. I thought # as what you wanted to replace the comma.

ryan 2025-05-06 12:11 a.m.

Funpark22

oh. I thought # as what you wanted to replace the comma.

ryan 2025-05-06 12:11 a.m.

Nope my fault there

ryan

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ryan 2025-05-06 12:12 a.m.

What's in brackets is useless because you already said "the Defendant intentionally and knowing fire..."

ryan 2025-05-06 12:12 a.m.

Why would you need to, in the same count, talk about discharging a firearm twice?

ryan 2025-05-06 12:12 a.m.

That's been the main issue with stuf

ryan

Click to see attachment.

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

what is the "d"

ryan 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

the letter d

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

began to discharge

ryan 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

please insert the letter d

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

began to discharged

ryan 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

No you remove began to

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

I see

ryan 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

I forgot to put the loop

ryan 2025-05-06 12:13 a.m.

began to discharge -> discharged

ryan 2025-05-06 12:14 a.m.

passive voice doesn't make sense here

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:15 a.m.

ryan 2025-05-06 12:15 a.m.

Also superseding

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:15 a.m.

fixed

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:15 a.m.

Is this good, your honor?

ryan 2025-05-06 12:17 a.m.

Count 2 is fine yes

ryan 2025-05-06 12:17 a.m.

THis is nitpicky

ryan 2025-05-06 12:17 a.m.

but with those minor edits we'll be in business

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:17 a.m.

Is this still okay though?

ryan 2025-05-06 12:17 a.m.

Yes sir

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

Can you take the above filing

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

i GUESS

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

Yea sure

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

Or would you still like me to fix it

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

Nah ur chillin

Funpark22 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

as I don't want to keep going back and forth

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

Just in the in future to wit is basically business

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

useless*

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

And ideally you want your sentences to read coherently and concisely

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

But yes

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

Okay

ryan 2025-05-06 12:18 a.m.

let me summon the defendant

ryan 2025-05-06 09:18 p.m.

Defendant in absentia

ryan

Defendant in absentia

Funpark22 2025-05-06 10:22 p.m.

Unable to find the Defendant?

ryan used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-05-06 10:33 p.m.

Case Modified

@ryan

has added @JaroCycle to the case channel.

ryan 2025-05-07 02:13 a.m.

@JaroCycle

james assigned u as PD

ryan 2025-05-07 02:14 a.m.

are u able to represnet the defendant to the capacity imposed upon you by the constitution and the laws of this state

JaroCycle 2025-05-07 02:38 a.m.

Yes

ryan 2025-05-07 05:48 p.m.

Okay

ryan 2025-05-07 05:48 p.m.

Pre trial will start at 5P CDT (12 minutes) and will last 240 hours ending 5P CDT 5/17

ryan 2025-05-07 05:48 p.m.

Pretrial motions are due 5P CDT 5/15

ryan 2025-05-07 05:49 p.m.

State must produce all Brady disclosure before 5P CDT 5/10

ryan 2025-05-07 05:49 p.m.

Defense will have until 5P 5/11 to file any disclosures

ryan 2025-05-07 05:49 p.m.

@JaroCycle

@Funpark22

Funpark22 2025-05-07 09:43 p.m.

@JaroCycle

If you can conjure up any discovery motions first, that would be greatly appreciated.

Funpark22 2025-05-07 09:43 p.m.

If you decide to make those motions^^^

Funpark22 2025-05-10 12:21 p.m.

Funpark22 2025-05-10 12:23 p.m.

and filed

Funpark22

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ryan 2025-05-10 04:53 p.m.

Perfect, for future reference please ping both myself and @JaroCycle

ryan

Perfect, for future reference please ping both myself and @JaroCycle

Funpark22 2025-05-10 10:02 p.m.

Np, apologies.

ryan

Perfect, for future reference please ping both myself and @JaroCycle

Funpark22 2025-05-10 10:49 p.m.

I invite @hackbucket as my co-counsel

Funpark22 2025-05-10 10:49 p.m.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mTczUvAe9FEOejqm0u9bTK4Gm-XfbU7C/view?usp=sharing

CR-0104-25 som v voync NOA.pdf

ryan 2025-05-11 01:26 a.m.

Okay !

ryan

Okay !

Funpark22 2025-05-11 02:28 a.m.

Could you add him, your honor?

ryan 2025-05-11 02:31 a.m.

Okay

ryan used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-05-11 02:31 a.m.

Case Modified

@ryan

has added @hackbucket to the case channel.

ryan

Pre trial will start at 5P CDT (12 minutes) and will last 240 hours ending 5P CDT 5/17

Funpark22 2025-05-19 11:17 p.m.

@ryan

Ready for trial, your honor?

Funpark22 2025-05-23 12:58 a.m.

@ryan

Funpark22 2025-05-29 01:25 a.m.

@ryan

Funpark22 2025-05-30 04:29 p.m.

@Kezzera

Can this get moving?

Kezzera 2025-05-30 05:07 p.m.

Mark

Kezzera 2025-05-30 05:07 p.m.

@Underprothonotary

Reassign

Brenda 2025-05-30 05:15 p.m.

Reassigned to @Richostein

Richostein 2025-06-01 03:04 p.m.

@Funpark22

where was this left off

Richostein

@Funpark22 where was this left off

Funpark22 2025-06-01 10:50 p.m.

Pre trial ended on 5/17.

Funpark22 2025-06-01 10:50 p.m.

Discovery was submitted

Funpark22 2025-06-01 10:50 p.m.

Defense has been dead

Funpark22 2025-06-01 10:50 p.m.

I literally have this entire case mapped out

Funpark22 2025-06-01 10:50 p.m.

The State simply wants trial.

shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-06-02 07:07 a.m.

@voync

shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-06-02 07:14 a.m.

Defendant has been held indefinitely in detention until appearance @Funpark22

shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-06-02 07:14 a.m.

Not much we can do as he doesn’t have a discord account and is most likely an alt

Brenda used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-06-24 01:31 a.m.

Case Modified

@Brenda

has added @acarlyle to the case channel.

acarlyle 2025-06-24 03:26 a.m.

Good day.

Funpark22 2025-06-25 10:38 p.m.

Hola!

acarlyle 2025-06-26 08:07 a.m.

@Funpark22

what is happening here Mr State Attorney

shah_khaled ᴘᴄ

Defendant has been held indefinitely in detention until appearance @Funpark22

Funpark22 2025-06-26 10:24 p.m.

Richostein 2025-06-27 11:42 a.m.

We'll keep this open for a few weeks incase defendant chooses to appear @Funpark22

@acarlyle

Richostein

We'll keep this open for a few weeks incase defendant chooses to appear @Funpark22

@acarlyle

Funpark22 2025-06-27 11:07 p.m.

Noted

acarlyle 2025-07-02 03:21 p.m.

@Richostein

I have been contacted by the defendant

acarlyle 2025-07-02 03:24 p.m.

@Richostein

Can the Defendant be served according to the Criminal Rules of Procedure please

acarlyle 2025-07-02 03:24 p.m.

@CompaEmber

Funpark22 2025-07-02 10:57 p.m.

Defendant also sent me a message but deleted it

Funpark22 2025-07-02 10:57 p.m.

Ik due to a message request sent to me

Funpark22 2025-07-02 10:57 p.m.

no proof

Funpark22 2025-07-02 10:57 p.m.

Just notifying the court

acarlyle 2025-07-04 03:09 p.m.

@Kezzera

please reassign this

acarlyle 2025-07-04 03:10 p.m.

I notified the court 2 days ago of my client coming around. And not so much as a message from the judge sunfr

acarlyle 2025-07-04 03:10 p.m.

since

Kezzera 2025-07-04 03:11 p.m.

@Richostein

you need to respond

Funpark22

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Funpark22 2025-07-04 10:41 p.m.

I'm notified that the medal link is expired. https://cdn.medal.tv/ugcc/content-social/mIY_nO5PuzbJouuZ1EP7Zw.mp4?auth=exp=1745562600~data=MjkzMzY1MTUwLGs1RDVaZ2N4S1E0ZnRfVnlGLDFlMkFkNkVPYUUsMjA2Mzc2NDIw~hmac=e26b17f81061787413343097dd8eedb950d9e35170005ef241527cddf89d8ff7&_gl=1*lelnxo*_gcl_au*MTA5MTY1NDEwNy4xNzQwNDQ0OTg0*_ga*NDcyNDI2MDU0LjE3NDA0NDQ5ODQ.*_ga_RKTT7KQC04*MTc0NTU0MjM3NS4zMC4xLjE3NDU1NDI3NjcuNjAuMC4w

acarlyle 2025-07-05 09:16 a.m.

@Kezzera

Again. Still nothing

acarlyle

@Kezzera Again. Still nothing

Richostein 2025-07-05 12:58 p.m.

Let my clerk know next time

Richostein 2025-07-05 12:58 p.m.

They'll be able to add him here

Richostein used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-07-05 12:58 p.m.

Case Modified

@Richostein

has added @CompaEmber to the case channel.

Richostein 2025-07-05 12:59 p.m.

@CompaEmber

respond to indicate ur present

Richostein

@CompaEmber respond to indicate ur present

CompaEmber 2025-07-05 02:03 p.m.

acarlyle 2025-07-05 04:20 p.m.

Defense is ready for trial your Honor.

acarlyle 2025-07-10 04:50 p.m.

@Kezzera

icl, but this is long

acarlyle 2025-07-13 02:05 a.m.

@Nicklaus

pls get this reassigned

acarlyle 2025-07-13 01:06 p.m.

@Xerxy

acarlyle 2025-07-22 10:07 a.m.

@Richostein

acarlyle 2025-07-24 12:22 p.m.

@Kezzera

once again

Kezzera 2025-07-28 10:39 p.m.

ok yeah we're gonna reassign this

Kezzera 2025-07-28 10:40 p.m.

@Richostein

Kezzera 2025-07-28 10:40 p.m.

@Underprothonotary

NOTE Reassignment: X4410(edited)

Funpark22 2025-08-01 09:42 p.m.

Friendly reminder that I will be out from August 3rd all the way to August 8th

Funpark22 2025-08-03 09:40 p.m.

@Kezzera

this has yet to be re-assigned

Kezzera 2025-08-03 11:43 p.m.

i'll just do it myself

acarlyle 2025-08-04 12:03 p.m.

I’m gonna be retired by the time this comes to a close.

Kezzera 2025-08-04 08:10 p.m.

I am back

Kezzera 2025-08-04 08:10 p.m.

this has been marked for re-assignment

Kezzera 2025-08-04 08:11 p.m.

patience is appreciated while we sort our mess

shah_khaled ᴘᴄ used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-08-09 07:23 p.m.

:white_check_mark: Successfully summoned @CompaEmber

(edited)

shah_khaled ᴘᴄ used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-08-09 07:23 p.m.

Case Modified

@krm

has added @CompaEmber to the case channel.

Richostein 2025-08-09 07:31 p.m.

Welcome Mr voync.

We are now going to arraign you. I will now advise you of your rights, please read carefully.

1. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say may be used against you in court.
2. You have the right to a speedy and public trial.
3. You have the right to see, hear, and question all witnesses called to testify against you.
4. You have the right to present evidence on your own behalf.
5. You have the right to testify in your own defense, but you cannot be forced to do so. If you choose not to testify, your silence cannot be held against you.

Richostein 2025-08-09 07:31 p.m.

@CompaEmber

Richostein 2025-08-09 07:31 p.m.

@acarlyle

Richostein 2025-08-09 07:31 p.m.

Do u understand these rights

Richostein 2025-08-10 05:44 p.m.

MINUTE ORDER

The Court sets this matter for arraignment to occur within twenty-four (24) hours of the entry of this Order. Defendant is hereby ordered to appear at the time and place designated in the scheduling order to be issued forthwith. Failure to appear as directed will result in Defendant being taken into custody and held in indefinite detention until such time as the arraignment is completed and further order of the Court is entered.

Signed

District Judge Richard Cornwall

(Entered 0/08/2025)

Richostein 2025-08-10 05:44 p.m.

@acarlyle

@CompaEmber

acarlyle 2025-08-10 05:47 p.m.

Not guilty pleas were already entered, as the court decide to continue in absentia @Richostein

Richostein

Do u understand these rights

CompaEmber 2025-08-10 06:30 p.m.

Yeah

acarlyle

Not guilty pleas were already entered, as the court decide to continue in absentia @Richostein

CompaEmber 2025-08-10 06:31 p.m.

What he said not guilty plea

Funpark22 2025-08-11 09:10 p.m.

State reiterates their readiness for trial

Richostein 2025-08-12 04:22 p.m.

@Ocazius

u can continue this case as magistrate, congratulations on the position!

Ocazius 2025-08-12 04:44 p.m.

@acarlyle

@Funpark22

acarlyle 2025-08-12 04:46 p.m.

we're at trial point @Ocazius

Ocazius 2025-08-12 04:48 p.m.

Just reading through, allow me a minute.

Ocazius 2025-08-12 06:03 p.m.

Alright this has been rather chaotic, let me sort some things out.

Ocazius 2025-08-12 06:04 p.m.

1. @acarlyle Is your client currently indefinitely imprisoned due to this case?

acarlyle 2025-08-12 06:10 p.m.

That was ordered by the court.

Ocazius 2025-08-12 06:33 p.m.

2. @acarlyle I understand that the state submitted discovery, but you did not have a chance to file any pre-trial submissions (discovery, motions etc). Is this correct?

Ocazius

2. @acarlyle I understand that the state submitted discovery, but you did not have a chance to file any pre-trial submissions (discovery, motions etc). Is this correct?

acarlyle 2025-08-12 06:44 p.m.

correct, I didnt because i came on this case as a replacement

acarlyle 2025-08-12 06:45 p.m.

however I’m not aware of anything that requires disclosure

acarlyle

however I’m not aware of anything that requires disclosure

Ocazius 2025-08-12 06:46 p.m.

So you have absolutely no discovery or motions to submit to the court before we proceed to trial?

Ocazius

So you have absolutely no discovery or motions to submit to the court before we proceed to trial?

acarlyle 2025-08-12 07:09 p.m.

Just the defendant. Mr Voync

acarlyle 2025-08-12 07:09 p.m.

thats all

acarlyle

Just the defendant. Mr Voync

Ocazius 2025-08-12 07:10 p.m.

Excuse me?

acarlyle 2025-08-12 07:10 p.m.

Ocazius 2025-08-12 07:10 p.m.

I just asked you if you have any documents such as discovery or motions to submit to the court before we proceed to trial...

Ocazius 2025-08-12 07:10 p.m.

'The defendant' is not a document you submit to the court

acarlyle 2025-08-12 07:10 p.m.

No but he is a witness that I need to make known to the other party if I may use him at trial?

Ocazius 2025-08-12 07:11 p.m.

Right, so please draft a discovery document including your witness list and any evidence you may have, and send it here ASAP.

Ocazius 2025-08-12 07:11 p.m.

And if you intend on writing any motions before we proceed to trial, please let me know now.

acarlyle 2025-08-12 07:11 p.m.

I have no motions

acarlyle

I have no motions

Ocazius 2025-08-12 07:16 p.m.

Then please get that discovery document to me soon.

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clerkFlow Bot2025-08-13 06:02 a.m.

Timer

Friday, August 15, 2025 at 6:02 a.m.

(6 months ago)

Ocazius 2025-08-13 06:02 a.m.

@acarlyle

I'd like your discovery and any additional pretrial documents by then, preferrably before.

acarlyle 2025-08-13 11:24 a.m.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UCVPAp2G6QJ4Dd4xZVN7OnaAGzY1XPaa/view?usp=sharing

CR-104-25, Defendant, Discovery.pdf

acarlyle 2025-08-13 11:24 a.m.

@Ocazius

@Funpark22

acarlyle 2025-08-13 11:24 a.m.

Defense asks that this trial be conducted asynchronous

acarlyle 2025-08-13 11:24 a.m.

Starting today

acarlyle

Click to see attachment.

Ocazius 2025-08-13 11:25 a.m.

Has this been filed with the website?

Ocazius 2025-08-13 11:26 a.m.

I don't see it on there

acarlyle 2025-08-13 11:26 a.m.

Im not added to the case, so I cant

acarlyle 2025-08-13 11:27 a.m.

One of the clerks will have to add it.

Ocazius 2025-08-13 11:27 a.m.

I will add you now, perhaps you should have told me this before...

Ocazius 2025-08-13 11:27 a.m.

Alright I have added you to the case

Ocazius 2025-08-13 11:27 a.m.

Please upload it now.

acarlyle 2025-08-13 11:28 a.m.

Doje

acarlyle 2025-08-13 11:28 a.m.

Done

Ocazius 2025-08-13 11:28 a.m.

Alright.

Ocazius 2025-08-13 11:31 a.m.

Before we commence to trial, I'd like to set out the following rules for testimony questioning:

1. Questioning is to be carried out on discord in this channel.
2. When either of you call a witness to the stand, you have 48 hours to finish that witness. If you finish before, we will move onto the next questioning, and if you fail to finish, I will cut you off.
3. When an objection is made, the message must be in response to the objectioned content, and must provide a basis for the objection, expanding if required.
4. Questioning will not continue until I have ruled on an objection.
5. Do not question in posted blocks, ask singular questions.

Ocazius 2025-08-13 11:32 a.m.

@Funpark22

As the state's representative, you now have 12 hours to submit or forfeit your opening statement.

Ocazius used

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Wednesday, August 13, 2025 at 11:32 p.m.

(6 months ago)

Ocazius 2025-08-13 06:06 p.m.

@acarlyle

Five hours...

acarlyle 2025-08-13 06:07 p.m.

@Funpark22

Ocazius

@acarlyle Five hours...

Ocazius 2025-08-13 06:18 p.m.

Wrong ping sorry

Ocazius 2025-08-13 06:18 p.m.

@Funpark22

Ocazius 2025-08-13 06:46 p.m.

@Funpark22

I would like to inform you that your lack of activity is not acceptable. If you are unable to find the time for something, you let the court know and you have the case assigned to another Justice Department employee. You have five hours to submit your opening statement, and unless you explicitly inform the court that the state waives its rights to an opening statement, I will hold you in contempt for delaying these proceedings.

Ocazius 2025-08-13 06:46 p.m.

(Once the timer is finished.)

Funpark22 2025-08-13 09:46 p.m.

Your honor, I have school and a boat-ton of homework. I was online roughly 24 hours ago. Me not being online for 5 hours does NOT signal inactivity. I'll get this opening statement out as soon as possible.

Funpark22 2025-08-13 09:46 p.m.

Your 2nd rules of testimony will be tested here. I've been in cases where it's taken practically a week (hopefully that doesn't happen). But we all have lives.

Funpark22 2025-08-13 09:54 p.m.

# STATE'S OPENING

Hello, your honor. This is going to be your standard case, a random Defendant, engaged in unlawful, random, and uncalled for sudden murder. To wit, the Victim was simply on a ride along with an Officer when the Victim went afk. The car was later de-spawned and the Victim was still afk, standing defenseless on the sidewalk at the Mersea Car Dealership, within Mersea. Seconds later, the Defense without any reason, came up behind the Victim and began to brandish a Protec DC9, an illegal weapon. The Defendant then began to shoot the Victim, killing the Victim.

You’ll hear from the Victim, kemchimi, who’ll tell their story of how they got to the sidewalk, where the incident took place. kemchimi will also disclose that she was Afk, non-consenting of the attack, and didn’t interact with the Defendant previously. She’ll further explain that previous to being AFK, she was on a ride along.

On top of that, to prove the Protec DC9 is an actual Protec DC9, Mechanelize will be called. Mechanelize, which by using his law enforcement background, he will shine light on how the Defendant was brandishing the Protec DC9. Mechanelize will also share how the Protec DC9, according to the State-recognized State Firearms Registry, operated by the DOJ, is labeled as an illegal firearm. Mechanelize will not only share the firearm name and that it is illegal but will also tell you who can and cannot have illegal weapons on their person. The Defendant will not be one of those people that can have illegal weapons.

Finally, it is the goal of the State in this case to prove beyond the reasonable doubt that the Defendant, without a doubt, committed Second-Degree Murder, Discharging a Firearm in City limits, and Unlicensed possession of a firearm. The State’s job in this case is not only to simply get a guilty verdict but is to serve the people, especially the Victim in this case who was powerless and unable to defend themselves.

acarlyle 2025-08-14 12:34 a.m.

Defense waives opening

Ocazius 2025-08-14 04:33 a.m.

@Funpark22

Call your first witness.

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Thursday, August 14, 2025 at 5:16 p.m.

(6 months ago)

Funpark22 2025-08-14 08:41 a.m.

I call @kem

Funpark22 2025-08-14 08:41 a.m.

Is it 48 from me calling or her/him getting an oath?

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clerkFlow Bot2025-08-14 10:52 a.m.

Case Modified

@Ocazius

has added @kem to the case channel.

Ocazius used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-08-14 10:52 a.m.

@kem

(edited)

Oath Selection

Which type of oath would you like to swear to?

Religious

- Involves swearing to god that your testimony is, or will be, truthful.

Non-Religious

- Solemnly affirms that your testimony is, or will be, truthful, under the pains and penalties of perjury.

Religious Oath

Non-Religious Oath

Ocazius 2025-08-14 10:52 a.m.

@Funpark22

48 Hours begins now, @kem please choose one of the above.

BotclerkFlow

@kem

clerkFlow Bot2025-08-15 05:48 a.m.

@kem

Non-Religious Oath

Do you solemnly affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, under the pains and penalties of perjury?

kem 2025-08-15 05:49 a.m.

I do

acarlyle 2025-08-15 06:03 a.m.

@Funpark22

Ocazius

@Funpark22 48 Hours begins now, @kem please choose one of the above.

Funpark22 2025-08-15 08:58 a.m.

Could I be given an additional 12 hours. I wasn’t online yesterday

Funpark22 2025-08-15 08:59 a.m.

Busy all day

Funpark22

Could I be given an additional 12 hours. I wasn’t online yesterday

Ocazius 2025-08-15 09:07 a.m.

Instead of asking me for an extension, commence your questioning….???(edited)

Ocazius 2025-08-15 09:08 a.m.

It’s been over three hours since the witness gave their oath

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:43 p.m.

Your honor, I have school. And at my school there’s 5k people on one WiFi

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:43 p.m.

So you’re never really hear my questions as the internet is slow on phones

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:44 p.m.

So I would like an 12 hr extension

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:44 p.m.

Please

kem

I do

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:45 p.m.

Do you remember this?: https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/k5D5ZgcxKQ4ft_VyF?invite=cr-MSxsSnIsMjkzMzY1MTUw

kem

I do

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:46 p.m.

Maybe I could get the 48 hours here as now I have 19 hours less to ask questions due to when the oath was responded to.

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:47 p.m.

https://cdn.medal.tv/ugcc/content-social/mIY_nO5PuzbJouuZ1EP7Zw.mp4?auth=exp=1745562600~data=MjkzMzY1MTUwLGs1RDVaZ2N4S1E0ZnRfVnlGLDFlMkFkNkVPYUUsMjA2Mzc2NDIw~hmac=e26b17f81061787413343097dd8eedb950d9e35170005ef241527cddf89d8ff7&_gl=1*lelnxo*_gcl_au*MTA5MTY1NDEwNy4xNzQwNDQ0OTg0*_ga*NDcyNDI2MDU0LjE3NDA0NDQ5ODQ.*_ga_RKTT7KQC04*MTc0NTU0MjM3NS4zMC4xLjE3NDU1NDI3NjcuNjAuMC4w * correct link

Funpark22

Do you remember this?: https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/k5D5ZgcxKQ4ft_VyF?invite=cr-MSxsSnIsMjkzMzY1MTUw

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:48 p.m.

With draw

Funpark22

https://cdn.medal.tv/ugcc/content-social/mIY_nO5PuzbJouuZ1EP7Zw.mp4?auth=exp=1745562600~data=MjkzMzY1MTUwLGs1RDVaZ2N4S1E0ZnRfVnlGLDFlMkFkNkVPYUUsMjA2Mzc2NDIw~hmac=e26b17f8106178741...

Funpark22 2025-08-15 06:48 p.m.

Do you remember the replied? @kem

Ocazius 2025-08-15 07:03 p.m.

Focus on your questioning, I'll grant an extension once we get a move on.

Ocazius 2025-08-16 04:36 a.m.

@kem

24 hours to answer the question before I hold you in contempt.

Ocazius used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-08-16 04:36 a.m.

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Sunday, August 17, 2025 at 4:36 a.m.

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kem 2025-08-16 04:50 a.m.

Oops sorry

Funpark22

Do you remember the replied? @kem

kem 2025-08-16 04:50 a.m.

Yes I do

kem 2025-08-16 04:50 a.m.

That was around April

acarlyle 2025-08-16 03:57 p.m.

@Ocazius

We are past 48 hours and the State has asked 1 question. This is beyond preposterous, Defense is invoking Speedy Trial. We want a conclusion to this witnesses direct examination testimony within the next 12 hours.

acarlyle 2025-08-16 03:57 p.m.

Better yet, we ask that this witness now be excused.

Ocazius 2025-08-16 04:13 p.m.

I will allow the State to continue for now. However, I will be setting a new rule - if a witness or counsel fails to respond within 18 hours of a question/response, they will be held in contempt. @Funpark22

Ocazius 2025-08-16 04:13 p.m.

I am appalled by the inactivity here.

Funpark22 2025-08-16 05:30 p.m.

Your honor, I slept and went to a friend’s house. I do not have discord notifications on my phone. I cannot be at the ready at all times

kem

Yes I do

Funpark22 2025-08-16 05:30 p.m.

Can you point yourself out?

Funpark22

Can you point yourself out?

kem 2025-08-16 05:33 p.m.

I am the one that is standing on the pavement after the vehicle is despawned

acarlyle 2025-08-16 05:40 p.m.

Are we asking one question every day or smth?

Ocazius 2025-08-16 06:00 p.m.

@acarlyle

Stop talking during examination please

Ocazius

@acarlyle Stop talking during examination please

acarlyle 2025-08-16 06:01 p.m.

What examination? Doesnt seem to be taking place.. I’m raising a perfectly valid question. This is taking forever, My client will be having grandkids by the time this witness is excused

Ocazius 2025-08-16 06:06 p.m.

I have already addressed the state's untimelyness. If you wish to explicitly raise that further, then do so, but do not interject his attempted examination with your comments.

acarlyle 2025-08-16 06:32 p.m.

Fear not, I’ll revisit tomorrow when the daily question is asked.

Ocazius 2025-08-16 06:38 p.m.

@Funpark22

Speed this up

Ocazius 2025-08-16 06:38 p.m.

If you're too busy, get this reassigned to another prosecutor.

Ocazius 2025-08-16 06:39 p.m.

I cannot reasonably believe that you are online for solely enough time to ask a couple questions.

Funpark22 2025-08-16 10:58 p.m.

Your honor, I'm on every day. Just because I have something else to do besides roblox doesn't mean I should be penalized. I have been on every day that I have been needed. @Ocazius Your honor, I have 3 other prosecutors who probably will be at the same activity as me or less. I have this case mapped out.

kem

I am the one that is standing on the pavement after the vehicle is despawned

Funpark22 2025-08-16 10:59 p.m.

Where does this take place?

Funpark22

Where does this take place?

kem 2025-08-16 11:05 p.m.

Mersea, outside the CD

Funpark22 2025-08-16 11:05 p.m.

@Ocazius

Your honor, at this time I ask for this exhibit to entered as the trial’s exhibit A. For formalities.

Funpark22

https://cdn.medal.tv/ugcc/content-social/mIY_nO5PuzbJouuZ1EP7Zw.mp4?auth=exp=1745562600~data=MjkzMzY1MTUwLGs1RDVaZ2N4S1E0ZnRfVnlGLDFlMkFkNkVPYUUsMjA2Mzc2NDIw~hmac=e26b17f8106178741...

Funpark22 2025-08-16 11:05 p.m.

Funpark22

@Ocazius Your honor, at this time I ask for this exhibit to entered as the trial’s exhibit A. For formalities.

acarlyle 2025-08-17 03:56 a.m.

We object under Best Evidence Rule & Mayfl. R. Ev. 11(1)

Funpark22

@Ocazius Your honor, at this time I ask for this exhibit to entered as the trial’s exhibit A. For formalities.

Ocazius 2025-08-17 08:26 a.m.

Denied.

Ocazius 2025-08-17 08:27 a.m.

I don’t know how you’ve gotten away with this in other cases, but you need to establish the authenticity of an exhibit through your questioning before seeking it to be entered into evidence.

Ocazius 2025-08-17 08:28 a.m.

i.e

‘Are you the owner of this video?’
‘Did you upload this video?’
‘Has it been altered in any way?’
‘Is this an accurate representation of the events coinciding with your memory?’

Etc

Ocazius 2025-08-17 08:28 a.m.

Please continue questioning the witness and then move for it to be entered once you have done so.

acarlyle 2025-08-17 12:13 p.m.

Defense is moving for dismissal on the grounds of speedy trial violations. It has taken the State called this witness 3 days ago, was given 48 hours to question the witness, and we’re well past that now. The state has asked 3 questions in the 72 hours since the witness was called and sworn in. In furtherance of that, my client has sat indefinitely in jail for 2 months preceding the start of trial because the court failed to schedule trial with the state and defense properly.

These continued delays are prejudicing my client, and violating his right to a fair trial. As such Dismissal with Prejudice is warranted. @Ocazius

@Funpark22

acarlyle 2025-08-17 12:14 p.m.

@Richostein

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:01 p.m.

Was trial in game not an option here?

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:02 p.m.

It seems both the magistrate and the defense are calling me slow yet I was sleeping and am actively doing homework.

acarlyle

Defense asks that this trial be conducted asynchronous

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:03 p.m.

We already decided it was to commence online

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:03 p.m.

It is not the state’s intention to drag this out for weeks on end

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:04 p.m.

It my job as the prosecutor in this case right now to ask questions to the witness

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:04 p.m.

It is out of my power how long it takes for the witness to respond d

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:04 p.m.

Or ever your honor to respond to my question

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:04 p.m.

Even*

Funpark22

https://cdn.medal.tv/ugcc/content-social/mIY_nO5PuzbJouuZ1EP7Zw.mp4?auth=exp=1745562600~data=MjkzMzY1MTUwLGs1RDVaZ2N4S1E0ZnRfVnlGLDFlMkFkNkVPYUUsMjA2Mzc2NDIw~hmac=e26b17f8106178741...

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:05 p.m.

@kem

are you the owner of the replied video. For the record the replied is a downloadable copy from the medal link as the physical medal link is expired.

Funpark22

I'm notified that the medal link is expired. https://cdn.medal.tv/ugcc/content-social/mIY_nO5PuzbJouuZ1EP7Zw.mp4?auth=exp=1745562600~data=MjkzMzY1MTUwLGs1RDVaZ2N4S1E0ZnRfVnlGLDFlMk...

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:07 p.m.

A - for record purposes

Funpark22 2025-08-17 01:11 p.m.

For record purposes the physical expired medal link is in state’s discovery

Ocazius 2025-08-17 02:28 p.m.

@Funpark22

When an opposing party makes a motion to dismiss, regardless of whether its paperless or not, you do not continue questioning.

Ocazius 2025-08-17 02:28 p.m.

I will allow you to make a papered or paperless response.

Funpark22 2025-08-17 03:30 p.m.

I’ll give my response in an hour or two

Funpark22 2025-08-17 03:30 p.m.

I’m very busy

Funpark22 2025-08-17 03:31 p.m.

Apologies for questioning during a motion

Funpark22 2025-08-17 05:14 p.m.

I just finished my homework. Response will most likely will be even later than anticipated as I have other obligations like cooking for my family.

Funpark22 2025-08-17 05:14 p.m.

3-4 hours. Apologies again.

Funpark22 2025-08-17 05:34 p.m.

I also need to look at relative case law on this issue when I get the time.

Funpark22 2025-08-17 05:34 p.m.

Which'll be within that 3-4 hours

Funpark22 2025-08-17 05:34 p.m.

Again apologies for this delay

Funpark22 2025-08-17 10:39 p.m.

actively working on the response

Funpark22 2025-08-17 11:16 p.m.

Response is written, I'm asking for feedback within my office before I submit.

Funpark22 2025-08-17 11:16 p.m.

Again apologies. State wasn't expecting a motion mid-trial.

Ocazius 2025-08-18 06:59 a.m.

Please hand it in soon.

Ocazius

Please hand it in soon.

Funpark22 2025-08-18 09:14 a.m.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z8DTbT8DEvIo8mMP-RkC5Lo5z5_UniU-/view?usp=drivesdk

CR-104-25, Plaintiff, State's Response to Motion to Dismiss.pdf

Funpark22 2025-08-18 09:15 a.m.

Will file on website in 12 hours

Funpark22

Will file on website in 12 hours

Ocazius 2025-08-18 09:16 a.m.

Why?

Ocazius 2025-08-18 03:19 p.m.

I am waiting.

acarlyle 2025-08-18 03:22 p.m.

Idk why you are waiting. You cant rule on it

Ocazius 2025-08-18 03:56 p.m.

You seek attention worse than a little girl(edited)

Ocazius 2025-08-18 03:56 p.m.

In a nice way

Ocazius 2025-08-18 03:57 p.m.

Not sure why you continually feel the need to drop irrelevant and random comments but I guess that's just you

Ocazius

Not sure why you continually feel the need to drop irrelevant and random comments but I guess that's just you

acarlyle 2025-08-18 04:31 p.m.

It isnt irrelevant at all. The fact that you think me pointing out an important procedural point is irrelevant is rather concerning, not less concerning than your attitude to counsel though.

Ocazius 2025-08-18 04:32 p.m.

Ocazius 2025-08-18 04:33 p.m.

Focus on your own attention

Ocazius 2025-08-18 04:33 p.m.

and attitude

acarlyle

It isnt irrelevant at all. The fact that you think me pointing out an important procedural point is irrelevant is rather concerning, not less concerning than your attitude to couns...

Ocazius 2025-08-18 04:33 p.m.

Thank you so much counsel. I don’t know what I would do without you reminding me of a statutory boundary of my position.

Ocazius 2025-08-18 04:34 p.m.

I will recommend you for the Medal of Integrity and Community Service shortly.

Ocazius 2025-08-18 04:34 p.m.

In the meantime, have fun with your speedy trial waiting for Mr. Cornwall to rule on your dismissal!

Ocazius

Why?

Funpark22 2025-08-18 06:22 p.m.

Because I’m not doing it on my school iPad

Funpark22 2025-08-18 06:22 p.m.

We already went over my phone at school has no WiFi

Funpark22 2025-08-18 09:45 p.m.

submitted

Ocazius

In the meantime, have fun with your speedy trial waiting for Mr. Cornwall to rule on your dismissal!

Funpark22 2025-08-21 11:55 p.m.

@Richostein

https://discord.com/channels/1274202187911790632/1367659105866743930/1406989729672728647

CompaEmber 2025-09-02 10:01 p.m.

Is this genuinely real?

Funpark22 2025-09-02 10:04 p.m.

@Richostein

Please, your honor.

Funpark22 2025-09-02 10:04 p.m.

The Defense's MTD is about a speedy trial

Funpark22 2025-09-02 10:04 p.m.

Your own response is delaying this trial from proceeding further.

Funpark22 2025-09-02 10:04 p.m.

So, please!

Funpark22 2025-09-02 10:05 p.m.

Give a ruling.

honkhonk used

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clerkFlow Bot2025-09-02 10:52 p.m.

Case Modified

@honkhonk

has added @Richostein to the case channel.

honkhonk 2025-09-02 10:52 p.m.

Sorry discord messed with his perms

Richostein 2025-09-02 10:52 p.m.

@Funpark22

Richostein 2025-09-02 10:53 p.m.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z8DTbT8DEvIo8mMP-RkC5Lo5z5_UniU-/view

CR-104-25, Plaintiff, State's Response to Motion to Dismiss.pdf

acarlyle

Defense is moving for dismissal on the grounds of speedy trial violations. It has taken the State called this witness 3 days ago, was given 48 hours to question the witness, and we...

Richostein 2025-09-02 10:56 p.m.

Is the defendant still indef jailed?

Richostein

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z8DTbT8DEvIo8mMP-RkC5Lo5z5_UniU-/view

Funpark22 2025-09-02 11:03 p.m.

Yep, my 3 page baby.

Richostein

Is the defendant still indef jailed?

Funpark22 2025-09-02 11:04 p.m.

I believe so, yet he just appeared during his arraignment and [right now.](https://discord.com/channels/1274202187911790632/1367659105866743930/1412618576069922977)

Richostein 2025-09-02 11:04 p.m.

Alr

Funpark22 2025-09-11 08:43 a.m.

@Richostein

Funpark22 2025-09-21 05:46 p.m.

@Richostein

Funpark22 2025-10-06 11:14 p.m.

@Richostein

Hello?

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-18 04:40 p.m.

@Funpark22

hello I am judge richo's clerk

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-18 04:40 p.m.

he cannot reach the case chat at the moment.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-18 04:40 p.m.

what do you need

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-18 04:41 p.m.

@Fish

do you need anything

Funpark22 2025-10-18 10:57 p.m.

I need a decision on a motion

Funpark22

I need a decision on a motion

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-18 11:17 p.m.

mtd?

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-18 11:17 p.m.

I will have him look at it .

Funpark22 2025-10-18 11:17 p.m.

Yeah.

Funpark22 2025-10-18 11:18 p.m.

It's been 2 months since I've responded to the speedy trial motion

acarlyle

Defense is moving for dismissal on the grounds of speedy trial violations. It has taken the State called this witness 3 days ago, was given 48 hours to question the witness, and we...

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 03:24 p.m.

@acarlyle

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 03:24 p.m.

are you still defense counsel

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 03:26 p.m.

judge richo has informed me that the motion to dismiss is denied

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 03:28 p.m.

also @Ocazius I believe judge richo assigned you this case for pretrial matters pursuant to § 2203.1

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 03:28 p.m.

which is why this is under his category

mantisshrimp69

also @Ocazius I believe judge richo assigned you this case for pretrial matters pursuant to § 2203.1

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:06 p.m.

I’ve confirmed with judge richo that he assigned ocazius the case temporarily under § 2203.1, so judge richo will continue the case himself from this point with my help

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:07 p.m.

@Ocazius

thank you though, your help is appreciated and this was just a misunderstanding

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:18 p.m.

@acarlyle

@Funpark22

sorry for the many pings. Judge richo has explained to me how he wants to go about this case. So here’s what we will do
- trial will be in-game. Judge richo may not be present, but I will be
- we will open a thread under this channel with a when2meet link made available to the state and the defense counsel (defendant may appear, but I will not require it because it is in-game and will complicate availability—insofar as any objections to this exist from either party, they must make them here timely)
- both parties must coordinate with their own witnesses (who come voluntarily) to make sure that they attend trial and are there to be called
- the court will entertain methods of bringing witnesses to court involuntarily (which both parties should know how to approach, if they want to do so) at any point and without time constraints given the nature of in-game trial

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:19 p.m.

All orders and decisions of judge ocazius are entered except for matters relating to contempt—inactivity will be handled separately, through sanctions

Ocazius 2025-10-22 04:20 p.m.

I’m on mobile, messages aren’t loading but have personal pings here - am I needed for anything?

Ocazius

I’m on mobile, messages aren’t loading but have personal pings here - am I needed for anything?

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:20 p.m.

No I was just saying a mistake was made

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:20 p.m.

Richo assigned you for pretrial matters not for the entire case

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:20 p.m.

But it was a misunderstanding and he thanks you for your efforts

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:20 p.m.

Your decisions thus far are recognized and he will take the case back now

Ocazius 2025-10-22 04:21 p.m.

I don’t think I’ve ever presided over this case

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:21 p.m.

You have though

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:21 p.m.

The confusion is understandable given the delays

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:21 p.m.

Judge richo has unfortunately not been able to rule or reach this case for a while but he is back now

Ocazius 2025-10-22 04:22 p.m.

OH LOL this is the MTD case

Ocazius 2025-10-22 04:22 p.m.

Anyways I’ll stop interrupting, thanks for letting me know

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:23 p.m.

Ofc

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:36 p.m.

And what capacity exactly are you on this case?

acarlyle

And what capacity exactly are you on this case?

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:36 p.m.

Hi I’m judge Richo’s clerk as I previously explained

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:36 p.m.

I’m relaying his orders and rulings here

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:37 p.m.

He has asked me to relay a standing order, so please let me forward that, one sec

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:37 p.m.

Yeah it aint appropriate for a clerk to preside over an in game trial

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:38 p.m.

Can you be quiet for a minute I’m going to forward something

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:38 p.m.

You can state what you want to say after

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:38 p.m.

But nonetheless, the PDO has to get a new attorney for this, because I serve in a Senior position of the DOJ.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:38 p.m.

Okay can you

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:38 p.m.

Say that after

mantisshrimp69

Can you be quiet for a minute I’m going to forward something

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:38 p.m.

Little bit of respect wouldnt go amiss. Clerk

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:39 p.m.

Counsellor

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:39 p.m.

Be quiet

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:39 p.m.

Okay

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:39 p.m.

Judge richo will address your concerns in due time, just have five minutes of patience so I can forward this here.

mantisshrimp69

Counsellor

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:40 p.m.

You’re his Clerk. All you should be doing is relaying his orders, not disrespecting Counsel. Unless the issue here is your unresolved issues because of me questioning your unethical behaviour?

acarlyle

You’re his Clerk. All you should be doing is relaying his orders, not disrespecting Counsel. Unless the issue here is your unresolved issues because of me questioning your unethica...

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:41 p.m.

I need you to be quiet

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:41 p.m.

Just be quiet for a second

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:41 p.m.

Wouldnt be an issue if you didnt come dropping in being disrespectful.

mantisshrimp69 Server2025-10-22 04:50 p.m.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:51 p.m.

This includes disrespectful, savvy, or sarcastic remarks of any kind

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:51 p.m.

Judge richo is not accepting of disrespect in his chambers either to him or to me so keep that in mind

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:51 p.m.

@acarlyle

Now, I believe you had a request

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:52 p.m.

You may submit it so that I may relay it to judge richo.

mantisshrimp69

Judge richo is not accepting of disrespect in his chambers either to him or to me so keep that in mind

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:53 p.m.

Is the Judge accepting disrespect to counsel by the Clerk? Just so that I am fully aware.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:55 p.m.

but like I said, PDO need to find another attorney for this, as my serving in a Senior position of the DOJ creates a conflict.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:55 p.m.

So for that reason, I must recuse as counsel.

acarlyle

Is the Judge accepting disrespect to counsel by the Clerk? Just so that I am fully aware.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:57 p.m.

Is this sarcastic

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:57 p.m.

Because that's not allowed

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:57 p.m.

like I said 5 minutes ago

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:57 p.m.

Nope, it isnt. I hate that you think that everything I say is sarcastic.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:57 p.m.

Why would somebody ask "is the judge accepting disrespect to counsel by the clerk"

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:57 p.m.

Non-sarcastically

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:58 p.m.

Being sarcastic to an Honorable Clerk is so beneath me.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:58 p.m.

Okay

mantisshrimp69

Why would somebody ask "is the judge accepting disrespect to counsel by the clerk"

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:58 p.m.

Because it is a genuine question.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:58 p.m.

So you legitimately want to know whether judge richo is allowing me to be disrespectful?

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:58 p.m.

I would like to know where I stand.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:58 p.m.

Because at the moment, it seems as tho it is acceptable for you to dish out, but when someone gives it back, its crime of the century.

Maybe consider speaking to others as you want them to speak to you.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:59 p.m.

I'll address your recusal in a moment

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:59 p.m.

I'm not dishing out

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:59 p.m.

But I don't think you understand how court dynamics work

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:59 p.m.

But, it doesn't matter. I am recused from this case, I can no longer serve as Defense Counsel.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:59 p.m.

You always need to be respectful to the person who is presiding

acarlyle 2025-10-22 04:59 p.m.

You aren't presiding.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 04:59 p.m.

I'm speaking on behalf of richo

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:00 p.m.

Great, I am respectful to the Judge, because he has ethics, and is a good person.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:00 p.m.

Now like I said, I am recused from this case.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:00 p.m.

So I shall speak no more.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:00 p.m.

Substitution of counsel doesn't come as "I must recuse, goodbye"

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:01 p.m.

You're an attorney and should know how to adequately proceed

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:01 p.m.

You must also inform your client adequately

acarlyle

Great, I am respectful to the Judge, because he has ethics, and is a good person.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:01 p.m.

That said, is the implication here that you're not going to be respectful to me, because I'm unethical and not a good person?

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:02 p.m.

That's what you're inferring, not what I said.

acarlyle

That's what you're inferring, not what I said.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:03 p.m.

I'm asking what you said.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:03 p.m.

What did you say?

mantisshrimp69

You must also inform your client adequately

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:03 p.m.

Are you advocating that I act unethically, Mr Clerk?

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:03 p.m.

Is what I inferred correct?

mantisshrimp69

What did you say?

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:03 p.m.

I said that I will always remain respectful of the Judge because he has good ethics and is a good person.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:03 p.m.

But you're implying that you will not be respectful to me, because, conversely, I don't have good ethics and am not a good person.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:03 p.m.

You merely inferred that it was a dig at you because you have a prejudice against me, perhaps from the Judicial Complaint that I filed against you for unethical conduct?

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:03 p.m.

Is that correct?

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

I'm not implying anything.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

I said exactly what I mean...

Richostein 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

Please don't be disrespectful to court staff

Richostein 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

Clerk is here to ensure a speedy trial

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

@Fish

resolve a substitution of counsel please.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

if you're going to ask people to substitute for your client, do it elsewhere

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

not in the case chat

Richostein

Clerk is here to ensure a speedy trial

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

If he wishes to remain respectful to me, he'll get the same back. But insinuations of unethical conduct, and such other disrespectful remarks don't fit under that bracket, Your Honor.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:04 p.m.

ask him privately

Richostein 2025-10-22 05:05 p.m.

No disrespect to court staff read chamber info, no additional warnings

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:05 p.m.

I wont sit here and disrespect people for the fun of it, but if they're gonna sit there and do that, I'm not going to sit silent.

Richostein 2025-10-22 05:06 p.m.

If there is any additional you will be sanctioned or held in contempt

Richostein 2025-10-22 05:06 p.m.

You've received all the warnings you can be given

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:06 p.m.

That's fine Your Honor, I'll sit in silence.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:07 p.m.

Alright

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:07 p.m.

@acarlyle

like I said if you want to recuse that's fine but judge richo requires that you actually follow procedural requirements for doing so

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:07 p.m.

Do you know what they are

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:07 p.m.

See above.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:07 p.m.

Which message

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mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:10 p.m.

@acarlyle

Are you able to talk in this channel?

acarlyle

That's fine Your Honor, I'll sit in silence.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:11 p.m.

Yes I am. Thank you for your concern. See above.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:11 p.m.

Okay

acarlyle

Yes I am. Thank you for your concern. See above.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:11 p.m.

Why are you communicating with me outside of the case chat, contrary to the standing order

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:11 p.m.

because it has nothing to do with the case.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:12 p.m.

Are you not making remarks implying I'm not giving you decency in this case?

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:12 p.m.

No, it was a personal issue that was raised outside of this case.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:12 p.m.

It was OFR

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:12 p.m.

OTR*

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:12 p.m.

Okay, can you tell me in what context (outside of this case) I am a clerk and have, in your eyes, disrespected you then?

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:13 p.m.

No, because it is a personal issue that doesn't require to be on the record.

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:14 p.m.

You putting it on the record is fishing for some form of discipline.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:14 p.m.

You're referring to this case in your comment

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:14 p.m.

I am not a clerk in any other case you're appearing for

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:14 p.m.

You've already been warned to follow the standing order and be respectful, so do so

acarlyle

See above.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:15 p.m.

Can you tell me which message

mantisshrimp69

You're referring to this case in your comment

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:15 p.m.

When and where?

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:15 p.m.

Again, you're making the inferences in the most negative way possible. Which makes my off the record comment more and more valid.

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:15 p.m.

Okay

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:16 p.m.

I'm glad you got that out of your system

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:16 p.m.

You're still referring to me in my performing this case in your comment

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:16 p.m.

Stop talking about it and just help me out with your recusal situation

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:16 p.m.

You're here to represent your client not yourself and you're doing him a disservice by not telling me how you're going to go about recusal

acarlyle 2025-10-22 05:17 p.m.

I've made it perfectly clear about this recusal. Again you making inferences and misjudgements in the most negative way possible. So if you don't mind, I am going to disappear from this case channel, because I say something that results in a huge fine.

acarlyle

I've made it perfectly clear about this recusal. Again you making inferences and misjudgements in the most negative way possible. So if you don't mind, I am going to disappear from...

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:19 p.m.

I don't want you to criticize what I am about to say in any way

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:19 p.m.

If you disagree too bad

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:19 p.m.

But all you have to do is be respectful, and you will not be slapped with a fine

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:19 p.m.

So far, you've disrespected court staff and disregarded orders

mantisshrimp69 2025-10-22 05:19 p.m.

Don't do that, and you're good